Jeff Goodman is sorry for making the Worldwide Leader LaVar Ball’s one-time mouthpiece.

Following his departure from ESPN for the upstart Stadium in June, Goodman spoke about his time as the unofficial Ball reporter while the family was away in Lithuania, apologizing to former colleague Scott Van Pelt on Tuesday’s “Good ‘N Plenty” podcast.

“I want to apologize to you because you always told me, ‘I don’t want to deal with that guy. I don’t want to promote him.’ And I kind of was probably the start of the LaVar Ball Promotional Tour. And now, I completely regret it,” Goodman told Van Pelt, via For The Win. “So, I want to apologize to you for that as I saw that because I never thought it would get to where it is.”

Van Pelt replied, “You owe me no apology,” later adding, “I just chose, at an early stage, early on in his son’s freshman year at UCLA (the only Ball who ever made it there for any period of time or made it on the floor at all) … just he’s not a story to me. That stuff doesn’t interest me. And so, I kind of tapped out of all of it because as I said on the air, I don’t find it to be interesting. It’s nonsense. I mean, talking junk about LeBron James and continuing to do so.”

Van Pelt wasn’t alone in his disdain for Ball coverage, with NBA analyst and former Knicks coach Jeff Van Gundy blasting his employer in January for publishing Goodman’s piece about the loud-mouth patriarch’s claims that coach Luke Walton had lost the Lakers. Ball’s eldest son, Lonzo, 20, was in the midst of his rookie season at the time. Ball then claimed he told Goodman he would “never, ever, EVER do an interview” with him again.

“He’s just not very bright. Ultimately that’s just what I’ll say: He’s just not very bright. Because if he was, he wouldn’t put all three of his kids in harm’s way like he has,” Goodman said.

After sons LiAngelo, 19, and 16-year-old LaMelo’s Lithuanian travels, the pair are participating in Ball’s Junior Basketball Association. LiAngelo was passed over during last month’s NBA draft.