Andrew Marchand and John Ourand are joined by former ESPN President Steve Bornstein, who opines on how he sees the media business changing.

Marchand and Ourand discuss the Manningcast, Al Michaels and Darren Rovell, in addition to diving into coming media rights negotiations for the Big 10 and MLS, the state of sports radio, and Jake Tapper’s editorial excoriating the International Olympic Committee and the NBA. Ourand chooses Sinclair’s Chris Ripley as “up” and NBC’s Gary Zenkel as “down,” while Marchand goes with Tiki Barber (up) and Manningcast (down).

ESPN’s Beth Mowins has Ourand’s Call of the Week; Marchand gives the nod to Detroit Lions radio announcer Dan Miller.

The “Marchand and Ourand Sports Media Podcast” is available on Spotify, Apple and wherever you get your podcasts.